Monday, June 13, 2011

Fresher Jobs in Infosys vs Startups : Please do some maths

As the current BE batch is passing out, we were approached by few students from college about jobs. Most of these guys already have offers from other companies and what they are looking for is best of both worlds: Better work + Better Package than their existing offers.

Meanwhile, we also have been thinking if we can afford hiring freshers, especially when the cream as well as average students already have one or multiple offers from bigger brands. And the first conclusion was not to hire any fresher from Engineering college unless someone who has already worked with us is interested to work with us at the package we are going to offer.

Note: We offer freshers between 1.8 to 3.0 based on their profile.


Of course the most favored company is Infosys as it has been the easiest take off point for majority of the crowd.

We had hired 3 freshers last year and our experience is not the most positive one. Surely the people we hired were dedicated and with right aptitude, but working in a startup means start writing bug free production code from day 1 (well almost). Simply speaking the people we hired last year have started delivering now after almost 9-10 months of mentoring.

So we were kind of surprised how come companies like Infosys pay package like 3.6 or 4.2 LPA and hire freshers in such large no. Of course their whole game plan is "human resources". But then we analyzed the salary structure and found how smartly Infosys have designed their salary structure for freshers such that freshers thinks that offer from Infosys is better than most of the other companies.



(note: this data is based on the information current BE students shared with us)

Students available to join the company: July 1
Infosys joining date: August/September/October. Lets consider September for general cases
Package Offered during training: 13,000 per month, inhand
Training ends: January
New Salary from Feb: 25,000 per month (only if you are a 5 pointer) , inhand
Total salary paid by Infosys for first year (Sep 2011 - Aug 2012): 13000*5 + 25000*7 = 240000
Average Salary received by a fresher in first year in Infosys = 20,000.



So if a startup offers you 20,000 or even 250000 from first year, I think it is a much better option than Infosys, ofcourse work is going to be much exciting than larger companies.


Now also consider the increments: (see the references)

Average Increments per year in Infosys = 15% (considering good company and individual perf)
Salary of person in year 2: 28750
Salary of person in year 3: 33062
Salary of person in year 4: 38021

In contrast to that, why not consider some startup which can offer an average scale on these lines:

Joining: July (or as soon as you can)
Starting package: Anything between 20K to 30K
Increment in first year: On 30% to 75%
Increments in subsequent years: average 20%
Other benefits:
a) Much better work experience
b) freedom (though too much is bad)
c) Ability to work with customers directly
d) What you can get depends on your capabilities.


Infosys is a great company to work for and I am not against joining Infy or for that matter any other bigger organization.I believe every person must work for a large organization like Infy, Patni, CTS, TCS for at least 1 or 2 years.But you must know when you are done working in a big company and when you must come out.

I wrote this article for people who join a company only considering the package. You must also consider the stability and work type of the startup before joining a startup. Though I presented that Startups could pay more, you must join a startup only for work and long term goals.If your ambitions do not match with the start-up company, you will fail.

We know people who are struck in very small startups and not able to grow. So please do your due diligence with startups also.



References:

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-04-07/news/293926...

http://www.payscale.com/research/IN/Employer=Infosys/Salary

Wednesday, May 25, 2011

RBTL : Passport Application Submission

This blog applies to Indian nationals who wants to renew their passports which are expiring within a year time.

I am providing some finer details about submitting passport renewal application so that you can avoid going back and forth.

If you already have a passport and the expiry date is within 1 year, you can apply for passport renewal.

Know that you can not travel abroad if the expiry date is within 6 months of your travel date.

I submitted my passport renewal application at Pune. I had to stand in line for 2 days and finally I could submit the app with some docs still missing.
Both days I reached passport office at 9 am, office opens at 10 AM and I could get inside the main area only after 12 noon. After that another hour of waiting but under a roof.

Anyway, important details follow here
1. You would find all details on www.passport.gov.in.

2. Online registration is must and that does not mean that you do not need to stand in line for hours. Online registration is must even if you can not read this blog.

3. Do not go to agents, unless you know that they have good amount of expertise about documentation. you can get all details online and strictly follow them and you will be through. If there are missing things, the passport officer will tell you exactly what they need.

4. When applying online apply for a day you are sure you will have all document. Also take another appointment for the next day or next to next day also. This is so that if you have to return back on day 1 you can go again next day. Generally you get appointment after 4-5 days from current date.

5. When filling app form, you can not change details which are automatically filled by the software like name, address, etc. IF you have to change such details, you need to reapply online. But there are fields which are left blank by software and you need to fill those by hands

6. Rental agreement is not accepted as address proof. Original bank statements are accepted as address proof. Attached electricity bills as well.

7. If applying for tatkal passport make sure:
a) Take two copies of Annexure F (verfication certificate) from the officer. Two copied means two copies in original and not xerox.
b) Do take a photo ID of the officer issuing you the certificate. If its an Army officer, you must take a ID proof like Canteen card or mess card. (I got RSI card of the officer). Passport copy of the officer is not accepted. the ID proof has to be related to the officer's job.


I will be applying passport for my wife and kid also. So if there are any hidden points, I will add to this post.

Saturday, August 14, 2010

6th Aug: Another life changing day

6th August; it was one of those days which you will remember for whole life.
On 6th I got a screw inserted in my left knee. It was an old ligament tear problem i had been ignoring for quite some time. Finally getting it rectified.
A 9x35 mm thread like screw is planted in left knee in a 75 minute long operation.
Its a biodegradable screew so need be taken out.
I should be on both of my legs after 23rd. till then I am enjoying my bed rest.

Sunday, June 06, 2010

Vihaan's Disctionary after 25 months

1. Papa, munje domisos pijja khana hai
2. Papa, munje phone chahiye. balloon khelo hoon
3. Dil to baccha hai...hhmmmm
4. Aley baap le, takkal maal diya
5. Hum bonjaai jalu hoon
6. JCB dekhoo hoon
7. Papa: "lunch mein kya bana rahi ho"
Vihi: "Papa, aaloo, roti, chabal, nimti, domisos"
8. Mein tigal hoon. kati kati ...gggrrrrr

Saturday, March 06, 2010

First 10 day long family vacation

Unlike other occasions, this time I had decided to plan a family vacation (wife and 1.5 year old son). And this time it was our third wedding anniversary. Had to make it special and also compensate for last 3 years. There were two product releases to be done by 5th of Feb. So it was kind of right time, given that the we could complete the release on time with no major issues. And so it happened.


5th Feb, Friday night, Pune, Sleeper Bus, 10 hour journey
I booked two seats of sleeper bus on 4th night. That was risky as Neeta and other good transports were already full. I should have done it at least 2-3 days in advance. But anyway the trip was excellent. It comfortable. The transport was from Raj Travels.
We boarded the bus at 9 but it did not leave before 10 pm. We reached Mapusa at 7 AM. The bus ticket costed INR 650 per ticket.

6th Feb, Saturday morning, Goa
Took a taxi INR 180 from Mapusa bus stand to Calungate, our hotel Villa Goesa.
Villa Goesa is almost 200 Mtrs off the calungate beach reachable via baga beach road. Its a 3 start and the location is almost perfect. From the hotel you can walk upto beach, there is a nice trail upto the beach with greenary on both the sides.

After breakfast we went to the calungate beach. Went for Dolphin search for INR 500. I was not aware that there are so many dolphins so close to the beach. We then came back to hotel and had lunch. Food was not so great at resort. Especially in the

whole trip I never got good seafood on calungate and baga beach. Did not like kingfish at all.

6th Feb, Saturday Evening, Goa
We took a scooty and went to see beach Anjuna. Its a rocky beach and the tides were strong so we just spent some time at the table top restaurants. Hot tea with mix veg pakoras and the view. amazing! Of course if Vihaan could sit at one place and we

could enjoy. :)
Btw, I wanted to go to beach Aksha but I could not recall the name of the beach that time. It was the beach I had visited last time I was in Goa with Akshu and other colleagues.

Saturday market
We then moved to Saturday market on the way back to Calungate. There are two big saturday markets. When coming back from Anjun beach, the bigger and famous one is on left hand side. The other one is right hand side but not sure how far from this

one. I had visited this market last time also so I knew how it was gonna be. Crowded. We reached the market at around 6. It was getting dark. The crowd was building up. The lower level is mostly indian shops with typical indian stuff. My wife got stuck at a

wooden item shop and had to shell out INR 3500 for few wooden things which looked like utensils but I dont feel that can be used for that.
Note: We had only 5000 cash and we were left with 1500. So we actually had to spend very cautiosly as it would not be possible to go out, find an ATM at night and get more cash.
The upper level was mostly shops by foreigners. Not sure how it was setup but it seemed like we are in some other country as there were hardly any indian shops but even more less indian buyers.
We spent almost 2-3 hours almost done with all cash and finally came out at around 9. That was the crowd then. The entrace and parking were jam packed.

Finally we reached the resort and headed for dinner on the beach. Dinner was ok. Surely depressed me with the seafood.


7th Feb
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Breakfast was complimentry but has few choices limited to bread butter and jam. Dont forget to order tea if you done like ready-mix tea. Again to the beach. the beach was excellent. Very clean. Just relaxed on the beach shacks. On repeated request from a massage wala had a full body massage with coconut oil which was almost money waste.
Evening we went to baga beach. I had a choose a good shack as I had planned to celebrate my wedding anniversary on baga beach which was 4-5 hours from then. The people on shack were very helpful and friendly. They managed Vihaan all the time. In fact he got mixed so much with the people that I decided to spent whole evening on this shack. at 9 pm we decided to come back to resort, freshenup and come back to same resort. I requested the shack manager to arrange a cake. Of course Anju never knew about my plans.
We were back on the beahc by 10 pm( Anju went shopping on the way). As expected baga beach is more of young crowd. Less of old retired foreginers uncle and aunties. lots of water sports. I would recommend to stay on Baga beach rather than Calungate beach.
at 11.59 pm the cake was ready on the beach next to bonefire. Anju had never expected that I had been carrying gifts for her all the way from Pune and there were 2 gifts. We enjoyed the evening at lot and finally the day came to an end and a new year in our married life started.

8th Feb
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Day to checkout. The plan was to checkout of hotel , go around places in Goa for whole day, go to a south goa beach and then take a train to Mangalore at 12 midnight. Train ticket was already booked so least the train part was decided.
I really wanted to go to Panolem beach in south goa. Its almost the last goa beach andis near Karnataka border. This is supposed to be the most beautiful beach in Goa. But considering several factors we decided following plan.
We decided to go to St. Xaiours church in old goa, followed by Mangesh temple followed by Spice garden ( all three in old goa going towards east ). Then we could have gone to Panolem beach (extremem south of goa) or Colva beach (again back to west side but center of the coast line of goa). Colva beach is the closest beach to Madgaon from where we had to board our train at midnight. So we choose Colva beach to avoid too much late night travel and several other factors as I said.

If you are going to Goa, know that there is not only beaches to see in Goa. And the one thing that you must see is St. Xaviers church where the dead body of St. Francis Xavier is kept. To know the history follow these URLs
http://chronicleofameanderingtraveller.blogspot.com/2006/01/st-francis-xavier-history-of-his.html
To know about St. Francis Xavier, follow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Xavier

Mangesh temple is another famous place. Linked to the mangeshkar family, the temple is simple but worth going once.
Very close to Mangesh temple is Spice garden. Its a spice plantation area and they offer nice lunch for INR 300 per person. The food was excellent with right amount of fresh spices. Many foreigners. Must go place.
It was around 5 pm by then and we started going south-west towards Madgaon-Colva beach. Kept the luggage at Cloak room on madgaon railway station and then headed for the beach. The taxi guy dropped and we paid him INR 1800 for the day long trip.

Colva beach is mostly an indian beach, Meaning 90% indian and local crowd and 10% foreigners. there were not more than 6-7 shacks. Good no. of water sports activity though. and they rightly say that south goa beaches are much better than north goa beaches. The sand is completely white. We did not go into water as Vihaan already had cold. Tonight it was going to be more fun though the crowd disappeared after 7 pm when water sports were closed. So it was mostly non-goa crowd now who came to the beach for dinner.
The food had much better choices here. I was so bored with Kingfish that I could eat any living-on-sea-dead-on-land creature. here I got Tiger prawns , pomphrate and lobsters and crab. But they did not knew how to cook Crabs in tandoor. So I had to limit myself to Tiger prawns and some fish with red-wine.
There was bone-fire and crackers and so it was a long and enjoyable dinner for us.
We then took a rikshaw back to station and bought some port wine on the way.

I dont recall the name of the wine but the name started with C. The bottle costed me just INR 300 and it was very good. It tasted as good as Sula wine. We had it in coorg.

the train was on time and the train had good enough seats. It was 2 AC but I expected the cabin to be better. We left goa on 9th 00.30 AM to Mangalore where the next part of the trip was to be started.


Resort
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Villa Goesa, standard room INR 2950 for the room per day. Room was ok but it was good enough for the trip. Breakfast complimantry. Service was good. Staff was ok. Crowd? excellent. Seemed the resort was quite famous amongst germans. Strangly

the resort did not appear on any of the travel and trip organizer web sites.

How did I find this resort? I spent almost 2 full days searched for best deals on websites like yatra.com, makemytrip.com, tripadvisor.com, hotels.com ... and prepared a short list of most popular resorts on calungate and baga beaches. Then I researched

about these resorts on the moustshut.com and google maps . Mouthshut.com provided useful insights about wrong information flashed by different websites about resorts like their just-on-the-beach location, services, ambience. Real people reported more

accurate information. Google maps gave a better idea of the location of the resorts in terms of distance and view.

Interestingly I found one resort reported as the hot pick on all websites. It was Estelo de mar. not sure if I spelled it correctly. But I was getting this hotel at around INR 1800 per day kind of rate which was almost 30% less than the reported rate. It is the only

beach resort available on calungate beach as reported by all the websites. I had almost booked it but then I read more reviews on Mouthshut.com about it and then choose to drop this resort. The reason there was a cremation ground next to it and people

reported real bad service. I rather choose to book a costlier resort rather than taking any risk with the stay.

Not getting a good resort near beach I went to google maps and found a new feature on google maps. People can upload photos and put them on maps along with the description. I started looking for such markups on the calungate beach and found several

good resorts on the beach. Villa Goesa was one of them.
I would recommend to stay on Baga beach rather than Calungate beach. baga beach is more of young crowd. Less of old retired foreginers uncle and aunties. Lots of water sports, foodaries and shopping areas.

Sunday, December 09, 2007

My Old Blogs

Here are some of my old blogs...

I read them now and couple of them are real funny ... btw "Prani" is not "Pranav"

http://blogsbyvij.rediffblogs.com/

Sunday, January 28, 2007

I am alive!

I am dead. I am still at the site. I can see blood, blood and blood everywhere. Seems I am fine. I could remember I was talking to Anju's little cousin Anisha. She thinks she lives in Tamilnadu. I had asked Anju to look at TV about the latest NEWS. Electricity had just came and she was trying to get the remote from Anisha to change the channel to NDTV. She said there is some NEWS on NDTV. Suddenly my soon-to-be mother-in-law came from outside. She loudly asked me to get off the train. I and Anju were in light mood as always. I told her it can happen anywhere, in train or plane. How should I come to delhi then. If I dont her family will have to find a new bridegroom for her. Anju was busy changing channels, I was on hold as usual. I thought I should talk to Papa. Called him up and he was asking me to buy cloths for Ajay and come to Village home on 30th. Something from inside was pinching me. Why I have not paid my life insurance premium till now. I am already 3 months late. If I dont and something happens to me all my saving for my family's future future will be gone.

Finally the train started moving slowly. And the thought of being dead has gone. People are talking in the other cabin that the bomb hoax (I hope so) is for the old Rajdhani EXp and not this train. This is Rajdhani Exp Special, and our train was at halt for 1 hour at Virar and not Borivali.I think I am still Alive and will be alive for whole life.